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Great Lakes Water Use – Lies and Half Truths

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Great Lakes Water is a Political War Zone

The blogosphere and news sites have been bristling that former President of the United States, Barack Obama allowed water from the Great Lakes region to be pumped and sold to China.  It’s a Lie. What’s worse is that none of these blog authors are checking the facts. Their lazy practice is to re-blog poorly written posts from inflammatory sites. Here is the Truth.


Lie #1 – Obama Allowed Great Lakes Water to Be Sold To China as Half the U.S. Faces Extreme Water Crisis

Port Cresent State Park River Bank

This overused inflammatory headline refers to the ability of companies to bottle water within the Great Lakes watershed. Quotes such as, “Why are we allowing foreign corporations such as Nestle to make millions upon millions of dollars pumping water out of the Great Lakes and selling it overseas?” This is not new news. Pepsi, Coca-Cola, Avita, and Nestle have been operating in Michigan and surrounding states for over 15 years. At least now, Nestle and other companies are operating under the Great Lakes-St. Lawrence River Basin Water Resources Compact enacted by the 110th United States Congress effective December 8, 2008, before Obama took office.  This Public Law 110-342 was introduced in the Senate by Carl Levin (D – Michigan) on July 23, 2008, passed the Senate on August 1, 2008, by unanimous consent, passed the House of Representatives on September 23, 2008, and finally signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008.


Half-Lie #2 – Companies are pumping millions of gallons of water out of the Great Lakes and selling it to China

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Nestle’s Product

There is a bit of truth to this. Companies can collect and bottle water in the Great Lakes region but only in containers of 5.7 gallons or less. However, the collection of water is not directly from the lakes but from the aquifers in the region.  Since 2000, Nestle Waters North America sell bottled “Spring Water” marketed with the Ice Mountain label. It’s bottling centers are located in Mecosta County, Michigan, and Guelph, Ontario. Each plant supposedly bottles 700,000 gallons a day. However, a 2000 report by the International Joint Commission noted that the Great Lakes basin imports 14 times the amount of bottled water that is withdrawn and shipped elsewhere.


Lie #3 – Obama allowed container ships to come into the Great Lakes, fill up and export our water to the Chinese.

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Container ships are not taking water from the Great Lakes – Pixabay CC0

Long before Obama was a national politician Canada was looking to sell Great Lakes water wholesale. In 1998 the Nova Group obtained a permit from Canada’s Ontario Ministry of the Environment to export approximately 160 million gallons per year of water from Lake Superior for export to Asia in bulk containers. Due to objections of Great Lakes governors and citizens, the permit was revoked.

The water from the Great Lakes is not being exported wholesale to Asia or the Chinese.


Lie #4 – Foreign companies are pumping water out of the Great Lakes without limits.

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Water is being taken from Great Lakes regional aquifers -Hans/Pixabay/ CC0

Switzerland company Nestlé has been operating a water bottling plant in Michigan since 2000. In 2009 the Michigan Citizens for Water Conservation sued Nestle Waters North America/Ice Mountain.  An out-of-court settlement was reached in 2009.   Nestle/Ice Mountain’s water pumping permit was reduced by almost half. Nestlé agreed to lower its spring pumping in Michigan earlier in the spring season during fish spawning and continue low pumping during the summer months to protect the already stressed stream and lake. Other companies that bottled water from the Great Lakes region include Coca-Cola, Pepsi, and Avita.

In 2018 Nestle, had been extracting and exporting up to 250 gallons a minute from a well in Evart, Michigan. Nestle filed for a new permit that would allow the company to pump 400 gallons of water each minute of the day, 365 days a year.

The Michigan DEQ is powerless to stop the foreign company from proceeding with its plan despite overwhelming opposition.


Half Lie #5 – The Great Lakes are Diverted Out West

stealing water from the great lakes

The largest, longest-standing and most controversial diversion from the Great Lakes is at Chicago, where the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal, finished in 1900, reverses the Chicago River and connects Lake Michigan to the Mississippi River. About 88% of all water diversion occurs in Illinois to the Mississippi.

The U.S. Supreme Court, in a 1967 consent decree, limited the Lake Michigan water diversion through the Chicago canal to 3,200 cubic feet of water per second.

There is more water diverted into the Great Lakes then is diverted out; particularly at the Longlac and Ogoki diversions in Ontario. They take water bound for Hudson Bay and divert it to northern Lake Superior at 5,580 cubic feet per second. The diversions were initially created to bolster hydroelectric power generation to help wartime manufacturing in the U.S. during World War I.  These were maintained by mutual agreement between the U.S. and Canada after the war.


Lie #6 – The Waukesha & Foxconn Flip Flop

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Environment Canada

The newest threat comes from Wisconsin. The Milwaukee suburb of Waukesha, Wisconsin, with dangerous levels of radium in their groundwater has been approved to “borrow” up to 8.4 million gallons of Lake Michigan water every day (or 3 billion gallons every year). Waukesha is 17 miles west of Lake Michigan and resides on the cusp of being outside what is considered the Great Lakes Water basin. Normally water from that area would flow into the Mississippi. The deal also supports a new foreign manufacturer, Foxconn who came to the area due to the plan to divert Lake Michigan water to support an LCD display manufacturing operation.

The city of Waukesha in June 2016 was given the approval to divert water from Lake Michigan for its drinking water supply after eight representatives from the states that border the Great Lakes voted unanimously to allow the diversion. A single no vote would have scuttled the city’s plan. Per the rules of the compact, Waukesha would have to return the same amount of water it takes from Lake Michigan back into the lake. The water would be treated at a Waukesha water plant and dumped into the Root River, where it would flow into Lake Michigan by way of Racine, Wisconsin.

Waukesha is the first city to apply for a diversion of Lake Michigan since a ban on such practices was enacted in 2008. Canada reviewed and approved the agreement. It did not intercede as allowed with the Great Lakes-St. Lawrence River Basin Water Resources Compact. In 2018 Foxconn pulled back from a commitment to a manufacturing facility that required the water diversion, however, it could have brought up to 13,000 jobs to Wisconsin.

Environmental groups are seeking to file suit and block the Waukesha diversion. They note that the Great Lakes Compact requires that a diversion be primarily for residential customers, and in the case of the Racine diversion, the primary customer will be Foxconn.


Great Lakes FAQ

How much water is in the Great Lakes?

All the Great Lakes constitute the largest group of freshwater lakes on Earth holding about 5,472 square miles of water. That about 6,000,000,000,000,000 gallons, enough to cover the entire lower 48 of the United States with over nine feet of water.

How many people get their water from the Great Lakes?

More than 48 million people from the US and Canada depend on the Great Lakes as their source of water.

How much fish is taken from the Great Lakes?

The University of Michigan estimates that approximately 100 million pounds of fish are harvested from the Great Lakes by commercial fishermen.


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14 Responses

  1. Linda says:

    You are lying, I have relatives there, and Nestle is pumping water out of there and putting it into big bags and on barges to be sold to China.

    • ThumbWind says:

      Hi Linda,

      If you can produce proof, as opposed to heresay, I will gladly post pictures or first hand statements from those who witnessed such activity. My blog is all about showing truth. Let me know how I can help….Mike

  2. Sam says:

    You may be amused by my reply to Jesse Ventura’s claim concerning the effect this has had. I posted this to his FB page:
    ————————————————————————-
    The absurdity of this claim makes the rest of this pretty questionable: “the Great Lakes are down about a foot of water because Nestlé= is sucking it all up before it gets there.” Now for the math (not that actual facts can trump conspiracies spread by unsupported innuendo and pure misstatement of facts, I know…)

    The surface area of the Great Lakes is approximately 94,250 square miles (http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/pr/ourlakes/lakes.html)
    94250 Sq Miles = 60320000 acres
    60320000 acre feet of water = 10,000,000,000,000 gals (ten trillion)

    Nestle’s two plants, are located in Mecosta County, Michigan and Guelph, Ontario. Each plant supposedly bottles 700,000 gallons a day.
    In 2009 their permits were altered, but assuming they’ve been doing 700,000 gallons a day, 365 days a year since 2000, (700,000 x 2 x 365 x 15 years) that would only be 7,665,000,000 gals (seven billion six hundred and sixty five million).

    Even if you assumed that to have been DOUBLE that amount up until 2009 when their permit was changed, the fact that ten trillion divided by that figure is 0.0007665 of an acre foot gives you an idea of how crazy the truth vs. what people will claim and other people will repeat, is.

    We DO have a lot of issues related to water and just about everything else that need to be addressed, but not by completely specious claims, unless of course, that just makes one feel good. After all, it’s all about feelings, why let facts disrupt the rush of indignation?
    http://thumbwind.com/2013/12/19/lies-and-half-truths-about-great-lakes-water-use/

  3. Dick says:

    Whether it b u or anyone else, kill all liars.

  4. Thanks for posting this article. It’s great ammo against the “Blame Obama” crowd. I’m still trying to find Obama’s executive order that allows Nestle to drain the Great Lakes! When I use the search engines, all they list are crazy articles like the one you exposed. LOL!

  5. Michelle says:

    You imply that Michigan is not the only state willing to sell out our environmental heritage to bad actors like Nestlé. As of September 2015 Michigan is, indeed, the only such state, despite the best efforts of Wisconsin’s republican governor, Scott Walker. Also, it’s a cheap rhetorical ploy to defend a practice based on your assertion that it’s been going on for years, is only half as bad now, is partially mitigated by some prior and completely unrelated offset. The only point upon which we appear to agree is the fact that none of this is President Obama’s doing, contrary to the monkey say–monkey mindlessly repeat style of right leaning bloggers and opinion writers, all of whom would benefit greatly from a month’s vacation from Fox, Vox and Bing.

    • Michelle says:

      The first sentence in my prior post should read “Great Lakes State”–not simply “state” though I see comments are censored, forgive me, “moderated” so it is unlikely to matter. **screenshot**

  6. ThumbWind says:

    Thanks for the backlink

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